Posts by Ima Apostate

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I went to a political rally tonight

by B_Deserter in

it was the obama rally where john edwards announced his endorsement for obama.

i couldn't help but think about how the witnesses always brag about how orderly and clean they are when they get together, not like those heathens in the world.

yet, everyone was respectful and cooperative.

Ima Apostate

I'm so jealous!!! YAY Obama on the Edwards nomination.

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Does anyone have parents who have left the BORG after you did?

by Alexia in

im thinking about my mother today.

shes been in the truth for over 30 years now baptized in her mid 20s.

she had been faithful the whole time despite being married to a severe alcoholic (my father only studied) for 27 years.

Interesting perspective. My mom sounds just like your mom. She is very faithful. And even though I totally disagree with her religion, I don't necessarily want to get her out of it. It makes her happy. The only bad thing is she can't divorce my Dad, and he's a total pig most of the time. They do not love each other.

My Dad, terrific brainwashed Jehovah's Witness that he is, told me that he is getting tired of a loveless marriage. I think he was depressed at this time. Anyway, he said if he met the right woman, he might just leave my mom.

Can you believe it? So somewhere inside my Dad, I think, is someone who could come out. He is a dangerous witness, whereas I see my mom as harmless. Dad wants to convert everybody. Mom is like, whatever, do your own thing. I love you because you're my daughter.

I'd love to get my dad to read Crisis of Conscience. But you know JWs, they are told not to go within 2 feet of that book.

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When witness familly members are difficult or abusive...feel free to vent

by milligal in

i wanted to open this thread for discussion after reading some other posts which sound very similar to my own situation.

i wondered if anyone would like to share suggestions, vent and get it off their chest or respond to my own issue.. in my case, my parents are jw and are relatively easy to deal with outside of the fact that they seek me out and ultimately want to save my soul (an uneven relationship).

however my husbands parents-his mother in particular, is a pill!

Ima Apostate

I have had my relatives shun me and treat me like a second-class citizen because I'm no longer "in the truth" (in the dark, as I know think of it). But over the years, I've watched my 'perfect' cousins drink themselves to obliteration, abuse prescription medications, have affairs, and do numerous other things... I don't judge them - I'm not perfect. I just find it ironic how some people feel the need to live a double life. Thankfully, I will never feel the need to do that, because in my church, there are no perfect people allowed. Let's face it - we're all working on something and we're all freakin' sinners.

I've never been completely shut off from my family so I can't say what your husband is going through. But all I can think of for him is GOOD RIDDANCE! If there is no hope for them ever coming around (and a lot of times, there isn't), you are better off without them in your life. I find Witnesses to generally be pretty lame people. I can't think back of anyone I've known during my JW years that was just awesome. People who are true JWs are quite boring and have a very limited world perspective. You can't talk to them about anything going on in the world. They have no desire to affect people positively here on this Earth, except to save their souls. They don't do any charity work or get involved in politics or making things better here on Earth at all, so SCREW 'EM.

There are so much better people in the world! I love my worldly friends!! (HAHA. It sounds so funny even saying that.)

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Not sure what to do - Not "in" and not "out"

by Alexia in

long story short: forgive my grammar, im in a hurry!.

i grew up as a jw by my mother who was baptized about two years before i was born.

my dad studied but was a severe (really severe) alcoholic and my older brother studied but was never really into it.

Ima Apostate

If you want to keep the relationship with you mom, I'd advise you to live the double life as long as you can stand it. You never know how relatives are going to take it when they find out you're leaving the organization. After all you've been through, losing a relationship with your mom might just be too much. Maybe after you've married and life has settled down for a while, then you can break it to her that you're out of the Kingdom Hall for good.

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Personal Experience I've Never Shared - I Hope it Helps Some Here !

by flipper in

jw
friends

o. k. how do i start ?

i will preface the start of this first by saying this happened many years ago - in 1985 when i had just become a new father myself to my dear son flipper junior, i'll call him.

when i explain this to you, some of this may appear comical, in fact, now that i overcame it years ago, i can laugh at it, but when you see the totality of the story- when it happened then to me- it was no laughing matter.

Ima Apostate

Those guys were sick! I'm glad their wives left them. They must have had some serious problems. I've never heard of this before, but it seems kind of psycho to me. Like a male dominance thing...

I recently found out some guy I grew up with in the Kingdom Hall who is still active evidently was playing master/slave games with some of the younger boys in the hall as a teenager. Like making them wear collars and kiss his feet and do God knows what else. Also, some boy came forward and said years earlier this guy and 2 others had attacked him and anally raped him with a broomstick.

The sickest part? This guy got married last year, and his girl knew all about this stuff. When I run into him around town and he greets me, I don't even look at him. He is like slime to me.

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Opinions/Experiences With Polyamory?

by White Dove in

jw
friends

so, anyone ever think that more would be nice?

.

your opinions please..

Ima Apostate

Some of my friends are getting into this and want my husband and I to join in. I'm tempted, but it seems like it will do nothing but worsen our relationship, much more than it would make it better, so I'm not going for it...

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The problems with my JW family

by Ima Apostate in

this may be a rare thing on this board, don't know, because this is my first post, but i was raised jw and officially 'checked out', in my own mind, at 14 or so, because it just didn't make sense that god would destroy so many good people who are wholeheartedly trying their best to please him and worship him in truth.

i actually did not pray or give god a passing thought for 12 years or so because the god i had been raised to know was no one i wanted to worship.

but here in the past year something brought me around to him.

Ima Apostate

My daughter is pretty mature. I don't think she'll fall for it. Also, I don't let the kids go to meetings anymore. I used to let them from time to time (my parents love dressing them up and showing them off). My daughter says she loves our church and she hates the Kingdom Hall. She's so glad she doesn't have to go.

I'm so proud of her ;-)

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I'm pumped, Just ordered Two New Books!

by Hope4Others in

http://www.chapters.indigo.ca/books/35/search?sc=steven+hassan&sf=author.

i'm so excited, many of you are already reading or have read this book.. i have ordered two of these today, combatting cult mind control , one for hubby and i and the other we hope to slip into the hands of.

his brother.

Ima Apostate

My pastor buys me a ton of ex-JW literature (God love him). One of the best is "The 10 Most Important Things to Say to a Jehovah's Witness". Of course, I'm always going to try and get my family to join me in my Army of Apostates. So that book is pretty helpful.

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The problems with my JW family

by Ima Apostate in

this may be a rare thing on this board, don't know, because this is my first post, but i was raised jw and officially 'checked out', in my own mind, at 14 or so, because it just didn't make sense that god would destroy so many good people who are wholeheartedly trying their best to please him and worship him in truth.

i actually did not pray or give god a passing thought for 12 years or so because the god i had been raised to know was no one i wanted to worship.

but here in the past year something brought me around to him.

Ima Apostate

Thankfully, I was never baptized. Man, did they start hounding me when I was about 12! I was so into it back then. I always paid attention at the meetings, went out in service, preached to my friends... Everytime there was a thunderstorm, I thought it was Armageddon.

But no, never was baptized, and I couldn't be happier. My JW family seem to have much less of a problem with me because I was never disfellowshipped.

I'm so sorry to hear about your dad. It is amazing how they try to emotionally beat you back into submission. I am so glad you too have found faith after such a terrible experience.

Oh yeah, and this is the first year I skipped the Memorial. YAY!!! Never going again. I prefer to drink the wine :-)

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The problems with my JW family

by Ima Apostate in

this may be a rare thing on this board, don't know, because this is my first post, but i was raised jw and officially 'checked out', in my own mind, at 14 or so, because it just didn't make sense that god would destroy so many good people who are wholeheartedly trying their best to please him and worship him in truth.

i actually did not pray or give god a passing thought for 12 years or so because the god i had been raised to know was no one i wanted to worship.

but here in the past year something brought me around to him.

Ima Apostate

I thought heavily about keeping my kids from their grandpa. But that doesn't seem fair. So I told my daughter if Papa starts preaching, say, "I'm not interested". And if he persists, tell your Nanny that Papa won't stop talking about Jehovah, and she'll make him stop!!!